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Why Do We Find Dinosaur Fossils?
In Genesis 6, we read that all flesh (man and animals) had ‘corrupted his way upon the Earth’ (Genesis 6:12). Perhaps people and animals were killing each other; maybe dinosaurs had started killing other animals and humans. In any case, the Bible describes the world as ‘wicked.’
Because of this wickedness, God warned a godly man named Noah that He was going to destroy the world with a Flood (Genesis 6:13). God therefore commanded him to build a great ship (the Ark) so that all the kinds of land animals (which must have included dinosaurs) and Noah’s family could survive on board while the Flood destroyed the entire Earth (Genesis 6:14-20).
Some people think that dinosaurs were too big, or there were too many of them, to go on this Ark. However, there were not very many different kinds of dinosaurs. There are certainly hundreds of dinosaur names, but many of these were given to just a bit of bone or skeletons of the same dinosaur found in other countries. It is also reasonable to assume that different sizes, varieties, and sexes of the same kind of dinosaur have ended up with different names. For example, look at the many different varieties and sizes of dogs, but they are all the same kind-the dog kind! In reality, there may have been fewer than 50 kinds of dinosaurs.
God sent two of every (seven of some) land animal into the Ark (Genesis 7:2-3; 7:8-9)—there were no exceptions. Therefore, dinosaurs must have been on the Ark. Even though there was ample room in the huge ship for large animals, perhaps God sent young adults into the Ark that still had plenty of room for them to grow.
Well, what happened to all the land animals that did not go on the Ark? Very simply, they drowned. Many would have been covered with tons of mud as the rampaging water covered the land (Genesis 7:11-12,19). Because of this quick burial, many of the animals would have been preserved as fossils. If this happened, you would expect to find evidence of billions of dead things buried in rock layers (formed from this mud) all over the Earth. This is exactly what you do find.
By the way, the Flood of Noah’s day probably occurred just over 4,500 years ago. Creationists believe that this event formed many of the fossil layers around the Earth. (Additional fossil layers were formed by other floods as the Earth settled down after the great Flood.) Thus, the dinosaur fossils which were formed as a result of this Flood were probably formed about 4,500 years ago, not millions of years ago.
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64 மில்லியன் வருடங்களுக்கு முன்னால் டைனசோர்கள் அழிந்தன என்று கூட தெரியாதவர்கள் எழுதிய புத்தகத்தில் இதுதான் சாமி என்று சொல்வதை நம்பி வாழ்க்கையை வீணடிப்பவர்களை பார்த்து பரிதாபப்படாமல் என்ன செய்வது?
40000 வருடங்களுக்கு முந்தைய ஆயுதங்கள் கண்டுபிடிக்கப்பட்டன.. கிறிஸ்துவர்கள் முஸ்லீம்கள் அதிர்ச்சி என்று எழுதியிருந்தீர்கள்.
கிண்டல் என்று நினைத்தேன்.
உண்மையிலேயே அது அவர்களுக்கு அதிர்ச்சியான செய்திதான்.
பாவம் அவர்கள்
எழில்,
கத்தோலிக்க சர்ச் பைபிள் தவறு என்று ஒப்புக்கொண்டுவிட்டது.
இந்த பக்கத்தை பாருங்கள்.
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03731a.htm
இதில் உலகம் தோன்றியது பற்றி பைபிள் சொல்வது தவறு என்று ஒப்புக்கொள்ளப்பட்டுள்ளது.
மனிதன் தோன்றியதாக சொல்லப்படும் 4000 வருடங்களுக்கு முன்னர் என்று சொல்வதும் தவறு என்று ஒப்புக்கொண்டுள்ளது.
அறிவியலை இவர்களால் ஒன்றும் செய்யமுடியவில்லை.
பைபிள் முழுவதுமே பொய்களால் நிரப்பப்பட்டுள்ளன. அந்த பைபிளின் கதைகளை நம்பி தொடங்கப்பட்ட கிறிஸ்துவ கதைகளும், இஸ்லாமிய கதைகளும் எப்படி உண்மையாக இருக்கமுடியும்?
பைபிள் தப்புன்னா இன்னும் ஏன் அது உண்மைன்னு பிரச்சாரம் பண்ணிக்கிட்டு இருக்கானுங்க?
“Why Do We Find Dinosaur Fossils?”
Here we go
In Genesis 6, we read that all flesh (man and animals) had ‘corrupted his way upon the Earth’ (Genesis 6:12). Perhaps people and animals were killing each other; maybe dinosaurs had started killing other animals and humans. In any case, the Bible describes the world as ‘wicked.’”
Evidence=0 radical reinterpretation to suit a conclusion.
“Because of this wickedness, God warned a godly man named Noah that He was going to destroy the world with a Flood (Genesis 6:13). God therefore commanded him to build a great ship (the Ark) so that all the kinds of land animals (which must have included dinosaurs) and Noah’s family could survive on board while the Flood destroyed the entire Earth (Genesis 6:14-20).”
This incidentally didn’t seem to kill ANY modern animals and fossilise them whilst fossilising all those nasty dinosaurs testing our faith. What a coinkydink.
“Some people think that dinosaurs were too big, or there were too many of them, to go on this Ark.”
Heck half the currently living species wouldn’t have fit on the boat they give the measurements of in the bible.
“However, there were not very many different kinds of dinosaurs.”
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dinosaurs
absolutely TINY amount.
“ There are certainly hundreds of dinosaur names, but many of these were given to just a bit of bone or skeletons of the same dinosaur found in other countries.”
Someone’s not a palaeontologist and what a surprise he hasn’t backed this claim with a single shred of evidence, nor any examples.
“It is also reasonable to assume that different sizes, varieties, and sexes of the same kind of dinosaur have ended up with different names.”
No it’s not, otherwise every single fossil would be considered a different species. He really didn’t think this through did he?
“ For example, look at the many different varieties and sizes of dogs, but they are all the same kind-the dog kind!”
That’s because we have specifically bred dogs apart to look wildly different. This don’t happen in nature on such an impossible scale, and besides they all have near identical skeletal structures so it wouldn’t be too hard to differentiate.
“ In reality, there may have been fewer than 50 kinds of dinosaurs. “
Hmm any support? Nope it’s Hovind there’s a surprise.
“God sent two of every (seven of some) land animal into the Ark (Genesis 7:2-3; 7:8-9)—there were no exceptions.”
Except those BILLIONS of insects that don’t breath life in their nostrils that they don’t have. Wait where’d they come from after the ark? Hold on how the devil did we get salt water fish which would have all died in a sudden surge of fresh water. One moment, why on earth where Egypt making records right through the supposed flood time, how did that happen? Stop right there what about those trees that are 5,000 years old by dendrochronology, damn you Prometheus tree.
“Therefore, dinosaurs must have been on the Ark. Even though there was ample room in the huge ship for large animals, perhaps God sent young adults into the Ark that still had plenty of room for them to grow.”
And either eat all the other animals on board or never learn how to hunt because they weren’t old enough to have learnt.
“Well, what happened to all the land animals that did not go on the Ark? Very simply, they drowned. Many would have been covered with tons of mud as the rampaging water covered the land (Genesis 7:11-12,19). Because of this quick burial”
Burial, by water, that would smash fossils to pieces.
“many of the animals would have been preserved as fossils.”
Because that TOTALLY happens.
“If this happened, you would expect to find evidence of billions of dead things buried in rock layers (formed from this mud) all over the Earth. This is exactly what you do find.”
Except water couldn’t possibly have done this. And they’re all dated completely differently. And much of the wrock wouldn’t have been remotely moved by that sort of water. Even in a waterfall, as in the 4ft of water an hour that is necessary to have been falling ALL over the earth, which TOTALLY wouldn’t smash through a wooden boat. No...
“By the way, the Flood of Noah’s day probably occurred just over 4,500 years ago. Creationists believe that this event formed many of the fossil layers around the Earth. (Additional fossil layers were formed by other floods as the Earth settled down after the great Flood.)”
Any of evidence of ANY of these floods. No, pity.
“ Thus, the dinosaur fossils which were formed as a result of this Flood were probably formed about 4,500 years ago, not millions of years ago.”
So carbon dating would work on them... wait.
“Have Dinosaurs Lived in Recent Times?”
Oh it’s just getting better.
“If the different kinds of dinosaurs survived the Flood, then they must have come off the Ark and lived in the post-Flood world.”
Actually the incest would have wiped out near every species on earth from inbreeding because populations don’t survive with less than about 20 different organisms
“In the Bible, in Job 40:15-24, God describes to Job (who lived after the Flood) a great beast with which Job was familiar. This great animal, called ‘behemoth,’ is described as ‘the chief of the ways of God,’ perhaps the biggest land animal God had created. Impressively, he moved his tail like a cedar tree! Although some Bible commentaries say this may have been an elephant or hippopotamus, the description actually fits that of a dinosaur like Brachiosaurus. Elephants and hippos certainly do not have tails like cedar trees!”
Nor do Brachiosauruses.
“Actually, very few animals are singled out in the Bible for such a detailed description. Contrary to what many may think, what we know now as dinosaurs get more mention in the Scriptures than most animals! So dinosaurs—all the different kinds—must have lived alongside of people after the Flood.”
OF COURSE!!!!!! Lulz. Completely ignoring the fact that absolutely no one but POSSIBLY the bible mentioned them. I mean we have cave drawings of mammoths from early man but nothing of these giant green things walking around. I mean if you found a fossil from the right era then it might be another matter, but no.
“Are Dinosaurs Mentioned in Ancient Literature?”
Heh this’ll be fun.
“Interestingly, the word ‘dragon’ is used a number of times in the Old Testament.”
Yarr fire breathing dinosaurs lul.
“In most instances, the word dinosaur could substitute for dragon and it would fit very nicely.”
Cos he lists LOADS of examples proving his point.
“Creation scientists believe that dinosaurs were called dragons before the word dinosaur was invented in the 1800s. We would not expect to find the word dinosaur in Bibles like the Authorized Version (1611), as it was translated well before the word dinosaur was ever used.”
You don’t say?
“Also, there are many very old history books in various libraries around the world that have detailed records of dragons and their encounters with people.”
There are detailed descriptions of how Hercules cleaned out the Augean stables. There must have been a super pooping horse.
“ Surprisingly (or not so surprisingly for creationists), many of these descriptions of dragons fit with how modern scientists would describe dinosaurs, even Tyrannosaurus.”
Riiiiiiight? Exactly what does he mean by that. They’re both big HAHA success they’re the same thing.
“ Unfortunately, this evidence is not considered valid by evolutionists. Why? Only because their belief is that man and dinosaurs did not live at the same time!”
Maybe something to do with the fact they didn’t.
“However, the more we research the historical literature, the more we realize there is overwhelming evidence that dragons were real beasts, much like our modern reconstructions of dinosaurs, and that their existence has been recorded by many different people, even just hundreds of years ago.”
And the descriptions vary wildly between “dragons” in different cultures. We always find one specific type of dragon myth developing in each specific culture, why aren’t there more than one type of dragon in each culture eh?
“What Happened to Dinosaurs?”
Big meteor is probably the best explanation.
“Evolutionists use their imagination in a big way in answering this question. Because of their belief that dinosaurs ‘ruled’ the world for millions of years, and then disappeared millions of years before man allegedly evolved, they have had to come up with all sorts of guesses to explain this ‘mysterious’ disappearance.”
Or we notice an abrupt stop in their appearance look for why, turns out it was a fairly large catastrophe. You know the Barringer meteor crater which would have been the equivalent of 3.5 million tonnes of TNT slamming in to the earth and going boom.
“When reading evolutionist literature, you will be astonished at the range of ideas concerning their supposed extinction. The following is just a small list of theories: “
Well yeah we have lots of ideas because evidence isn’t conclusive. We know they DID die and we have a fair few good ideas on the matter.
“Dinosaurs starved to death; they died from overeating; they were poisoned; they became blind from cataracts and could not reproduce; mammals ate their eggs. Other causes include-volcanic dust, poisonous gases, comets, sunspots, meteorites, mass suicide, constipation, parasites, shrinking brain (and greater stupidity), slipped discs, changes in the composition of air, etc.”
And all of them have reasonable amounts of evidence. If he’d like to take issue with them then why doesn’t he as opposed to dismissing them.
“It is obvious that evolutionists don’t know what happened and are grasping at straws.”
Does he EVEN know what a straw man is. When theorising about the end of the dinosaurs we aren’t debating creationists so how the hell can we be misrepresenting your arguments.
“‘Now comes the important question. What caused all these extinctions at one particular point in time, approximately 65 million years ago? Dozens of reasons have been suggested, some serious and sensible, others quite crazy, and yet others merely as a joke. Every year people come up with new theories on this thorny problem. The trouble is that if we are to find just one reason to account for them all, it would have to explain the death, all at the same time, of animals living on land and of animals living in the sea; but, in both cases, of only some of those animals, for many of the land dwellers and many of the sea-dwellers went on living quite happily into the following period. Alas, no such one explanation exists’ (Alan Charig, p. 150).”
Quoting out of context, it is fairly clear what he means is that people are approaching the problem in the wrong way not that they’re clearly all wrong.
“But, one such explanation does exist. If you remove the evolutionary framework, get rid of the millions of years, and then take the Bible seriously”
Byebye modern science.
“you will find an explanation that fits the facts and makes perfect sense:”
This is gonna be good.
“At the time of the Flood, many of the sea creatures died”
All of the sea creatures would have, salt water ones, which would have cataclysmically ripped apart food webs causing ALL of their extinctions.
“but some survived.”
Cos that’s TOTALLY possible.
“In addition, all of the land creatures outside the Ark died, but the representatives of all the kinds that survived on the Ark lived in the new world after the Flood.”
Except those that were sacrificed and all the rest of them by everything we know about biology SHOULD be dead, even fi they had fit on the ark.
“ Those land animals (including dinosaurs) found the new world to be much different than the one before the Flood. Due to (1) competition for food that was no longer in abundance, (2) other catastrophes, (3) man killing for food (and perhaps for fun), and (4) the destruction of habitats, etc.,”
Every habitat was trashed, including the aquatic ones. They’d all be dead. I mean what the hell happened to all the plants
“many species of animals eventually died out. The group of animals we now call dinosaurs just happened to die out too.”
It WAS an entire kingdom of animals you realise. That’s like saying all the mammals were just wiped out by competition. That would obliterate the food chains and kill all of them.
“ In fact, quite a number of animals become extinct each year.”
And assuming it was only the genera (the only possible classification for them to fit and even then it’s a push) taken on board a new species would have had to be spawning new species almost daily.
“Extinction seems to be the rule in Earth history (not the formation of new types of animals as you would expect from evolution). “
Well yeah extinction drives evolution.
“Will We Ever See a Live Dinosaur?”
Yay, Loch Ness monster
“The answer is probably not … but, then again? There are some scientists who believe a few dinosaurs may have survived in remote jungles.”
O rly? Because that’s the sort of claim that people make without backing it up and have it deemed credible.
“ We are still discovering new species of animals and plants today in areas that have been too difficult to explore until now.”
Which are very rarely big or particularly distinct from any other species. The chances of us finding animals belonging to an extinct kingdom, when we have no evidence of them existing, are absurd.
“Even natives in some countries describe beasts that fit with what might be a dinosaur.”
Funny how noone ever can ever find these, and they fit stereotypical descriptions in place for centuries.
“Creationists, of course, would not be surprised if someone found a living dinosaur.”
Maybe you Hovind.
“However, evolutionists would then have to explain why they made dogmatic statements that man and dinosaur never lived at the same time.”
Because they never found any evidence of it and don’t jump to retarded conclusions. But hey you’ve still got to find the damn thing and then you’re not even looking at a problem with evolution itself just our application of it due to insufficient data.
“ I suspect they would say something to the effect that this dinosaur somehow survived because it was trapped in a remote area that has not changed for millions of years. You see, no matter what is found, or how embarrassing it is to evolutionists’ ideas, they will always be able to concoct an ‘answer’ because evolution is a belief.”
Well yeah alligators have existed since roughly the tail end of the dinosaur era. They have had no selective pressure so they haven’t evolved. And he was talking about SCIENTISTS grasping at straws. Hypocrisy much?
“ It is not science—it is not fact!”
Afraid the Dover trial thinks otherwise, along with almost all scientists around the world.
“What Did Dinosaurs Eat?”
What the hell does this even matter?
“The Bible teaches (in Genesis 1:29-30) that the original animals (and the first humans) were commanded to be vegetarian. There were no meat eaters in the original creation.”
So he has no evidence but the bible which he’s taken out of context because genesis 2 states this:
“ 19 Now the LORD God had formed out of the ground all the beasts of the field and all the birds of the air. He brought them to the man to see what he would name them; and whatever the man called each living creature, that was its name. 20 So the man gave names to all the livestock, the birds of the air and all the beasts of the field.”
Now God physically separated livestock from beasts of the field, what the hell was the livestock doing if not being eaten?
“ Furthermore, there was no death.”
Before the flood? RIIIIGHT. Has Hovind ACTUALLY read the bible death appeared long before the flood
“ It was an unblemished world, with Adam and Eve and animals (including dinosaurs) living in perfect harmony, eating only plants.”
Or not
“Sadly, it did not stay this way for very long. Adam rebelled against his Creator, bringing sin into the world (Genesis 3:1-7; Romans 5:12). Because of this rebellion, Adam, and thus all of his descendants (you and me), gave up the right to live with a Holy (sinless) and just God. God therefore judged sin with death. “
Not any kind of argument presented.
“The Bible plainly teaches from Genesis to Revelation that there was no death of animals or humans before Adam sinned. (Consider just a few of the many passages, such as: Romans 5:12; Genesis 2:17; Genesis 1:29-30; Romans 8:20-22; Acts 3:21; Hebrews 9:22; I Corinthians 15; Revelation 21:1-4; Revelation 22:3.) This means there could not have been any animal fossils (and no dinosaur bones) before sin.”
Well you don’t say but that happened almost immediately so hey.
“After Adam’s sin, animals and people started to die. It was now a different world, one of death and strife. A world that was once beautiful now suffered under the curse placed upon it by the Creator (Genesis 3:14-19).”
What a nice creator, he makes a flawed creation and then complains when it goes wrong.
“ But a promise was given (Genesis 3:15) that God would provide a way for the penalty of sin to be paid so there would be a way for man to come back to God.”
He was talking about killing dangerous snakes and smiting Satan. Talk about selective reading.
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